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Topic: Interesting reading Posted: 29 Jul 2010 at 10:06pm |
How Girls BullyThe Covert Tactics Used When Girls Bully From Mike Hardcastle, former About.com Guide Most studies about bullying focus on boys as aggressors but girls can be bullies too and when girls bully it can be an entirely different beast. When we think of bullying we tend to think of physical violence and outward taunting but when girls bully their tactics are often quiet and covert. Girls Who Bully Can Be Hard to RecognizeFrom the outside looking in it can be hard to tell a group of girls who are bullying apart from a group of girls who are innocently standing around. Girls socialize differently than boys. As girls get older their peer interactions become less physical and more cerebral. Girls engage in verbal bonding by sharing stories, hopes, and dreams. Since girls bond differently than boys it makes sense that when they bully it would be different too. Teachers and parents tend to talk about the obvious when they talk about bullying. Playground scuffles, name calling, stealing personal items and damaging property are commonly cited examples of bullying behavior. But when girls bully they aren’t so obvious. Girls can be quietly vicious with their victims and adults often fail to treat their behavior as bullying. Girls and Boys Do Not Bully the Same WaysThe tactics used by girls who bully are distorted versions of some normal mechanisms of social development. According to research done by Lagerspetz, Bjorqvist and Peltonen at the University of Miami, when girls bully they use things like alienation, ostracism, deliberate and calculated random exclusions, and spreading of rumors to harass their peers. Girls get other kids to gang up on one or more peers as a way of exerting control. Sometimes they incite other children to act out aggressively and sit back to watch the show. They form groups that pick and choose members at random and exclude others without real reason. They form alliances with other social groups in an effort to jockey for popularity and positions of power among peers. All too often the bullying tactics used by girls are brushed off as cruel but normal social interactions. In Girls, Bullying Behaviors and Peer Relationships: The Double Edged Sword of Exclusion and Rejection, Barbara Leckie explains how bullying by girls manifests itself and how it is handled by adults. Leckie went over numerous studies dating back as far as 1980 and identified the many different ways that girls bully. She also found that adults were slower to react to the bullying tactics used by girls. Adults Can Be Slow to React to Girls Who BullyIf there is violence or physical acting out of any sort adults are quick to intervene and when necessary will punish offenders, but when the bullying takes on a less obvious form even adults don’t seem to know what to do. When girls bully it often goes unaddressed. Since adults don't always label the tactics used by girls as bullying kids who fall victim don’t know where to turn for help. The mindset still exists that not all kids can be friends and the social structure of the school system encourages the formation of groups and reinforces the idea of social hierarchies. This makes many adults slow to recognize things like exclusion and alienation as something sinister. These behaviors are often dismissed as an unfortunate part of the normal formation of peer groups. While it is normal for girls and boys to form social groups and close bonds with certain people at the exclusion of others it becomes bullying when those groups make power plays over other groups or individuals. Having friends is one thing; having friends who work to make others feel that they are not good enough to be included is another. Playing the popularity game in a way that causes fear or inadequacy in others is a form of bullying and it is a common tactic used by girls. Girls Bully in PacksSadly, good kids who know better go along with these types of popularity power games for fear of being singled out and cast out of the group. Since adults often treat this exclusionary behavior as mere social clashing kids who are caught in the middle are afraid to stand up to the bully. It seems easier to do nothing than it does to do the right thing. Kids who quietly go along with a bully add to the bully's power by giving victims the illusion that the bully has peer support. The victim feels like everybody is against them, not just the bully. When adults do not address exclusionary behavior the same way they would address more traditionally forms of bullying it worsens the problem. Kids who know better feel powerless to do the right thing when adults don’t react. Girls who bully will pick on boys as well as other girls. They act out as consistently as boys who bully and pick their targets in much the same way. While girls have been known to get violent when they bully it is much more common for them to use emotional tactics. How Girls BullyGirls bully by using emotional violence. They do things that make others feel alienated and alone. Some of the tactics used by girls who bully include: - anonymous prank phone calls or harassing emails from dummy accounts
- playing jokes or tricks designed to embarrass and humiliate
- deliberate exclusion of other kids for no real reason
- whispering in front of other kids with the intent to make them feel left out
- name calling, rumor spreading and other malicious verbal interactions
- being friends one week and then turning against a peer the next week with no incident or reason for the alienation
- encouraging other kids to ignore or pick on a specific child
- inciting others to act out violently or aggressively
Boys are not the only bullies, girls bully too. Being singled out, ridiculed, excluded, or alienated is a form of bullying. Being beaten up emotionally on a daily basis does damage to the victims. It is time that the problem was addressed for what it is, a gender difference in bullying but bullying none-the-less.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 9:22am |
Great post!!
Sadly this is all true!! Especially the part that other girls (and boys) will befriend the bullies so that they will not be the next targets. And one of the main reasons for this is because the powers that be will not handle or control the situation. The kids are afraid to tell the truth, for fear they will become the next victims. And when they do stand up and do the right thing, the powers that be dont believe them or the victims. Then where do they turn? They feel that they are now an even bigger target by the bullies AND that they are being watched in case they feel the drastic need to stand up for themselves. When they feel like no one is handling the situation.... whats next? Do they take matters into their own hands with violence or do they take their own lives? Its happened before and sadly it will happen again.
Bullying is bullying, no matter who it is and should be handled properly.... but like the article says, adults THINK they know EVERYTHING about these kids and refuse to see the writing on the wall.
JMHO
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If people would take the time to put themselves in others shoes..... the world would be a much nicer place!
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 12:37pm |
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Great Post!! Having a daughter is tough!!! Parent drama and Parent Bullies are just as bad!! My daughter has been on both ends as I am sure ALL have!!! Life lessons learned at any given moment. Trying to teach mine that 2 wrongs dont make a right!! Just because someone did it to YOU ...,Be the bigger person and let it go ...chalk it up as a learning experience!! Some girls try so hard to control their friends every move .. Its ok for them to spend overnights and do things with others ...but as soon as others try to do something without them the DRAMA begins. For the most part I let my child make some mistakes and learn, trying to guide her in the right direction . Some say BOYS WILL BE BOYS...But let me tell you Girls can be much worse!!
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 3:36pm |
Originally posted by sub65
Its ok for them to spend overnights and do things with others ...but as soon as others try to do something without them the DRAMA begins. For the most part I let my child make some mistakes and learn, trying to guide her in the right direction . |
This was not the direction I was looking at for this post, but that can be a problem.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 3:52pm |
I believe that drama is different than bullying....Bullying is a meditated act ment to hurt another human being. Girls will be girls and have a bit of drama every now and then, it is when it gets malicious, as stated above, that it is not ok. That is the message in the article. And, that as adults sometimes we must step in before it gets taken so far that there is an end result that can never be taken back.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 4:30pm |
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True ...But the Drama always has bully undertones...
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 9:14pm |
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seriously. when a child bullies another child its physical all the emotional crap is just personal and comes with being a child. someone is going to get their feelings hurt sometime in their life not everyone can be a part of everything. that doesnt mean one child is bullying another its simply a fact of life. sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 10:34pm |
Originally posted by caragurl720
seriously. when a child bullies another child its physical all the emotional crap is just personal and comes with being a child. someone is going to get their feelings hurt sometime in their life not everyone can be a part of everything. that doesnt mean one child is bullying another its simply a fact of life. sticks and stone may break my bones but words will never hurt me |
Tell that to the parents of girls who commit suicide due to malicous rumors, gossip, lies, and drama that came from cyber-bullying. Words hurt them enough to kill themselves and destroy the lives of their families.
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Posted: 30 Jul 2010 at 11:50pm |
Originally posted by caragurl720
someone is going to get their feelings hurt sometime in their life not everyone can be a part of everything. that doesnt mean one child is bullying another its simply a fact of life. |
I think this is not what the entire article's point is....It sounds as though you are referring to a different situation.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 1:13am |
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suicide is a personal choice made by someone who is not stable. taking ones life is a decision that is ultimately made by one person. granted it may not be helped by words but i dont consider words to be bullying these things have always and occurred and will never stop occurring. sheltering a child from these things instead of teaching to cope with them and handle the situation properly is in no way beneficial. as far as me speaking of a specific situation im not i simply took one of the final bullet and gave my opinion :)
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Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 11:49am |
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20 years of teaching has shown me otherwise. Constantly being told you are fat, ugly, gay, I'm going to get you after school, etc., each and everyday, being ridiculed and humiliated to the point where a child hates to go to school, is in constant fear of their well-being, won't eat, becomes withdrawn, and gets a damaged self-esteem - it's bullying - even though these types of things have always occurred.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 12:31pm |
Going back to the original article posted... it's about the actual bullying. And yes, most definately yes.... words are part of bullying. It is NOT just physical. Sticks and stones.... blah blah blah. Words can cut like a knife. Sometimes as an adult, I would rather be punched than have certain cruel things said to me. Adults are suppose to be stronger and wiser, but none the less, words do hurt, and in the mind of an adolescent, they can be forever damaging. I wish every child could be as strong as caragirl (Im glad you are, and Im not trying to "trash" your opinion, just speaking from experience) and not let it bother them, but unfortunately that is simply not the case. Suicide is a decision that one makes on their own, but if they feel that the world is against them (from the bullying of their peers), and they FEEL they have no one they can turn to (school authorities), and they FEEL like no one cares (sometimes parents do EVERYTHING they can).... who HELPED put those thoughts there??? The bullys... the mean spirited kids who get their kicks out of watching others suffer only to boost their little egos. And their parents only encourage them by making excuses, covering up, or dismissing their behavior as kids being kids.
Kids, as well as adults, can be down right cruel and mean. The article really wasnt about being popular and having invites all over the place... but when there are added situations and the bullies getting the weaker minded to do their dirty work for them and join in.... then it does snowball, like the non-inclusion.
And when the situations are reported, or just simply flat out CAUGHT by authorites and NOTHING is done, then there is a whole other snowball effect. The ones who are bullied take matters into their own hands, or others step in to defend them and the whole mess gets out of hand.
The good Lord made us all differently.... different strengths and different weaknesses. To constantly be beaten down with harsh words takes its toll even on the strongest of people. Kids will be kids and mean things will be said BY EVERYONE, but when it is a constant on going of threatening and harrassment by the same kids over and over, then something must be done.
There is an old saying... "what doesn't kill us, only makes us stronger." hmmmmm
There is another old saying.... "do onto others......."
And yet another....... "walk the walk before you talk the talk"
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Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 3:27pm |
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I think Cara was speaking from personal experience, unfortunately she was one of the kids that was made fun. From being called fat to being called 4 eyes, called a nerd or weird cause she didn't play sports. She knows from experience what that feels like as do I. My dad is legally blind and could not work therefore lived on SSI and couldn't afford the finest things. So I was teased alot about my thrift store clothing. I think she was saying not everyone has a low self esteem or wants to commit sucide because these things are said, sometimes in our case it makes you a better person and to be aware of others feelings more than before.
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Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 3:37pm |
I really was not directing my post towards cara except where I said she was strong.... I know it must read that way.... but really I wasnt and I truly apologize if it was taken that way.
My post was just "venting" I guess against the ones who choose to ignore these situations, think its funny, or simply says that "my kid wouldnt do such a thing". Bottom line is all kids are immature and they ALL are capable of doing ANYTHING.
I feel horrible for anyone who goes through this kind of thing and yes you are correct... the ones who are strong enough to get through it, are the ones who are the much better people because they know first hand how to treat someone else. They also learn to ALMOST pitty the ones who choose to behave this way because they must have VERY low self esteems.
Like I said... sorry if it seems like I was going after her.......... not so at all. 
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Posted: 31 Jul 2010 at 9:14pm |
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